Bawa The On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (Recommended way to Navigate around Library) Spiritual Chat 361 ---------- "E-mail Version" ------- About Spiritual Chat 361 "Your Life Is The Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, That Is, "Whatever You Intend Is What You Will Receive" Date of Chat: November 23, 2006, on Thursday Morning, Early, on "Thanksgiving" Chat Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), at the "Feet of God" for "Your Age" Page 1 of 1 ============================================================== Main Go To: Status Go To: Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 361 -------------------------------------- Available Go To: A Short Overview - to Spiritual Chat 361 ---------------------------- Available Go To: E-mail Version - of Spiritual Chat 361 ---------------------------------- Available (The Version you are currently reading) Go To: Outline & Summary Version - of Spiritual Chat 361, with "Outline & Summaries" --------------------------------------------------- Planned Go To: Related Material - for Spiritual Chat 361 ------------------------------ Planned ============================================================== Home Page - Spiritual Chats Go To Spiritual Chat 362 Chat 361: E-mail Alert Library Home Page Go To Spiritual Chat 360 Chat 361: Other Stuff ============================================================== A Short Overview - of Spiritual Chat 361 [Note: To read a complete copy of the "Text" of "Spiritual Chat 361" please click on the following: "E-mail Version" of Spiritual Chat 361. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Does "Our" dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) have any questions, comments, or sharings? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes dear Father Bawa, can we discuss the balance between the right and the left? That is, if this is an appropriate topic for this time. Bawa. For example, Bawa teaches us that our lives must be a balance between the right (that related to God and what He has kept within Himself) and the left (the world of illusion that we live in). In this way, so we can progress to the desired goal (that of understanding "who we are", that goal of unity with the Shaikh and God within Him). Bawa. Has your child understood properly what my Dear Father was teaching us when He was still "in the body" or was there misunderstanding? Bawa. Does this teaching still apply now, or are You teaching us something new for this current time in our lives? Bawa. Father forgive my faults, grant me Your Grace. Anbu. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. And dear Father Bawa, is this a "Santa Clause moment" where this child should be in bed and not watching to see who eats the cookies? Anbu. [Note: Please see the full "Text" of Spiritual Chat 361 for an explanation of this reference to a "Santa Clause moment". To access the full "Text" please click on the following: "E-mail Version". Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes and No. Yes for Curtis and No for Bawa, which in a very beautiful way is the answer to the question that was asked. Bawa. For if "you" are Curtis on the "outside" of you, then there is a separation between the Giver, the Gift, and the Child, but if "You" are "One with" Bawa within you, and "One with" God within Him, then They are all One within you, that is, the Giver, the Gift, and the Child. Bawa. And the Choice is always yours, not God's, that is, the Choice of "Who you are", either Curtis or Bawa, either the illusory "outside" of you, or the true "inside" of you, either what "you" think in your ignorance and in your arrogance about your ignorance that "you" are doing on the "outside" of you, or what in truth "God is truly trying to do" with what is "Within God" within you, if you will only "Let Him", which is "Destroy you and Reveal Him", which is reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand what You are saying. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In this way, for Curtis there is never a balance between the right and the left because they are always seen as separate, but for Bawa they are One, they are God that is "speaking" without an understanding of "himself" leaving to again become Silent with an Understanding of Everything while God that is Silent with an Understanding of Everything comes forward to Speak with an Understanding of Himself, for the benefit of all of His Creation, which in truth is seen by God as "Himself happening" again, but this time within you, if you like. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "We" understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In this way, Curtis can never reach the desired goal of having Oneness, which in truth is the only balance between the right and left, which is the left leaving you as the right comes forward from within you, no matter what is Given to him, because he believes he is "separate from" Oneness, and from the One who Gives It, that is, he is "separate from" both the "Gift and the Giver", while Bawa within Curtis, and God within Bawa, is always the desired Goal of Oneness, no matter what He Gives or Receives or Experiences, because He has transcended all "separation from" Oneness. Bawa. And in this way, Curtis wants God or Oneness, while Bawa within Curtis, and God within Bawa, which is what God has hidden within Curtis, is God and Oneness, all of which is like an apple seed buried within the earth wanting an apple tree and its fruits, rather than "becoming it", rather than realizing, understanding, accepting, and joining with the truth hidden within it, and with the earth it is buried within, to germinate, that is, to let the "Truth surrender to the Truth" within it. Bawa. And in this way, to let the life of the apple seed buried within the earth as "separate from" end, and to let the life of "One with" to begin, to let the life of the apple tree begin, that is, to become the apple tree, and its fruits, and the sweet taste within each fruit, and again the apple seed, but this time a 1000 fold, if it likes, for the Choice is each apple seed's, not God's, for like most people, most apple seeds never germinate to the truth hidden within them. Bawa. Instead they rot in the earth and eventually die in the earth taking on 105 million rebirths, but never again as the apple seed, never again as the Story of the "Oneness of The Apple Tree and Its Fruits", a Story that it came to the earth, to join as "One with" the earth, to tell. Bawa. In this way, Curtis and each of My Children are quickly becoming like this, like the life of the apple seed that fails to germinate to the truth hidden within it, he is refusing to let the illusory life of impurity, of "separation and differences", surrounding the pure "Seed of God" hidden within him die, so the "Tree of God" hidden within it can live. Bawa. He is refusing to let Curtis end, so Bawa hidden within him, and God hidden within Bawa, can live and grow and come to maturity as the Katpaha Virudcham, as the "Wish Fulfilling Tree" growing within the Creation of God within God within him. Bawa. And in this way, like the apple seed that germinates, revealing the apple tree hidden within it, then reveal the "Fruits of God" from within that "Tree of God" within God within him, that is, reveal True Man within God within him, as True Prayer, the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is" within you Bawa. A Prayer which "You" must start to say, without saying within you, starting with the "Prayer of the Eligible Virgin", or the Tariqat Prayer of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), A Prayer that is now truly within each of My Children, if you like, not because of anything that you have done, or failed to do, but because God has now placed it within you for your age, God has "Made it So" within you, if you like. Ok? [Note: To access an on-line version of "This Prayer", of the "Prayer of the Eligible Virgin", or the Tariqat Prayer of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, please click HERE (www.EligibleVirginPrayer.homestead.com), all of which is now part of the On-line wisdom material that "We" have now provided for you, if you like, both within the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and in the On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (www.Bawa.homestead.com), which in truth is now but a small reflection of "His Heart", and of what God has now placed within each of My Children, if you like. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen]. Bawa. And in this way, allow True Man to reveal God as the "Oneness of God and True Man" within God within Him, and in this way, bring to Completion the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man", that Curtis and each of My Children have come to this earth world to tell, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind", in the End, there is nothing still "separate from" God within you. Amen. Bawa. And in this way, your life is the Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, that is, "Whatever you intend is what you will receive". Bawa. So Stop acting "as if" you are "separate from" God within you, with faith and trust in God within you, as the "One" within you, and then in truth you are no longer "separate from" God within you, because God will then "Make It So", that is, God will complete your intention. Such is the "Power of God" within you, and the Power of your "Faith and Trust in God" within you, which in truth are "One Power" within you, which in truth is "The Power" within you, and the "Form of The Power" within you. Bawa. Which is why "We" taught you earlier, when "We" were in the world, and now why "We" teach you now, if you like, through the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), at least for a little while, until he too leaves the world, the following: 1) Without Iman there is no Islam, there is no Prophet Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within you, there is no "Straight Path or "True Prayer" within you 2) Without the Faith of "John The Baptist" there is no Christianity, there is no Jesus (peace be upon Them) within you, there is no "Liberation of the soul" within you 3) Without Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen there is no Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Them), there is no Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, there is no "Palace of the Soul", there is no "House Wisdom", there is no house of Qutb Muhaiyaddeen Abdul-Qadir al-Jilani (peace be upon Him) within you 4) Without True Man there is no God within you, there is no Creation of God within God within you, there is no "Bank of God" within you, there is no "Bank of True Man" within the "Bank of God" within you, there is no Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within you, there is no Completing This Story within you, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind" within you. Bawa. Please know this now, without the slightest doubt, and start to act accordingly. Ok? Bawa. So Stop acting "as if" you are "separate from" God within you, and from each other, and Start acting as "One with" God within you, as "One with" your brothers and sisters, and as "One with" the Creation of God within you, with faith and trust in God, as "Your Oneness" within you, and then God will "Make it So" within you. This is for sure. Bawa. For in truth, whether "you" are "Curtis, or any of My Children still living as "separate from" on the "outside" of you, which is still the state of all of My Children, or you become like "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), who truly learned from "Us" before "We" left the world, "How not to be there", so "We" can be there, in truth the Choice is yours, not God's. Bawa. That is, whether "you" are "Curtis" worshipping "Curtis" on the "outside" of you, or Curtis worshipping Bawa within you, and God within Him, seeing them all as "separate from" Curtis on the "outside" of you, or "You" are Bawa within you, that is, or "You" are Bawa within you worshipping God within Himself, by giving life to "You" within Himself, that is, by pulling "you" back into Himself, as His Understanding of Himself, so God within Him can then pull Him back into Himself as His Understanding of Himself, in this way, seeing Everything as "One with" Him within you, is your Choice, not God's. Bawa. That is, so God can then answer His question of God within Himself, that is, the Question "Who am I?", with God seeing Everything as One, with God seeing Everything as Himself happening within Himself, as God revealing God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you. Bawa. All of which in truth is in your hand, not God's hand, because God has put it in your hand, that is, not in "Our" hand within you, or in God's hand within "Us" within you. For in truth, "We" are always One within Everything within you, as in truth "you" are always "separate from" everything on the "outside" of you, but if you like, "We" can destroy you and reveal Us". Bawa. So please Stop all of your "Working for wages to get into heaven" for in the End you will be very disappointed, and instead join in partnership with God within you, before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, by saying the word "Bawa", or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen", or "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him), before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, as this child has learned to do. Bawa. And in this way, establish the "Presence of God" within you, allowing God to "Stand in Judgment" before all of His Creation within you, as the "Master of the Day of Judgment" within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state, and "you" get an eternal hell within you as "separate from" God within you. Bawa. And "Stand in Judgment" within you, before all of the Creation of God within you, because now "You" no longer exist as if you are "separate from" God within you, you no longer exist as what is standing between God and His Creation within you, allowing God to stand within you, as the, "Maliki yawmid-deen". Bawa. As "The Master of the Day of Judgment" within you, if you like, before you die to the flesh, if you like, with "you" joining in partnership with God within you, with each breath, each look, each word, each taste, and each thought, to let "you" end on the "outside" of you, and to let "Us" start to happen again within you. Bawa. And "We" will gladly do this true "Heart's Work" within you, if your intention is correct, if your intention is praiseworthy, that is, with you saying each day, until your last breath, the following prayer, as "We" told you to say each day, from the very beginning, in 1972, when "We" were living in the world, "O Our Father, Our Shaikh, Our Guru, We need your Love, Please, Please, Please, Destroy me and reveal you". Bawa. And as "We" do this "Heart's Work" within you, if you like, that is, if you so "Task Us" to do this "kind of work" within you, each day, as part of this work, "We" will then pull "You" into "Us", as the "Understanding of Us". Amen. Bawa. It is truly that simple. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "We" understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar Bawa. And an Example of this truth of the "Two Sides of the Same Coin" is the Series of Discourses given earlier to Curtis and to all of My Children, when "We" were in the world, the Series of Discourses known as "Bawa Speaks To Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Them), which appeared as "two" on the "outside" of you, but in truth is really One within "Us" within you, if you like. Bawa. And another Example of this truth is this Series of Discourses now being given to Curtis and to all of My Children, this Series known as "Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" Speaks to "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Them), that is, which also appear as "two" on the "outside" of you, but in truth is really One within "Us" within you, but this time as One within the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased within Him), if you like. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. So let yourself be both sides of the "One Coin", and then "You are", because God will "Make it So", or continue to keep holding onto yourself living as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "one side" of two "separate coins", and then "you are", because you have "made it so". Bawa. The Choice is always yours, not God's, that is, the Choice with each breath, with each look, with each word, with each taste, with each thought, the Choice of "Who you are", and "Where you are", and "What is happening" in your life, is always your Choice, not "Our Choice" within you, and not "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. So let "you" leave the illusory "outside" of you, which now is "One side" of the Coin that is "You, which in truth is the "Dream of the Qutb" within you, the side now living as if you are "separate from" God within you, and become again the "Motionless All Pervading One who is the Omniscient Silent One" within Everything within you. Bawa. So God can again come forward from within "You" as the "One who Speaks" from within you, which in truth is the awakened "Wisdom surrounding your soul", that is awakened by the "Word of God" for your age, the Qutb of God which is the "Dreamer of God" or the Qutb of God "Happening" within God within you, which is "Who your are" for the first three years of your life in this "School of Contrast" within you, overcoming 61 of the 64 arts within you, as the "True Student" within you, who has come to understand "Who You already are" within you, which is the "Oneness of God and True Man" within you, and then leave, then allow God within Him to tell the next Chapter in His Story, the Chapter on "True Prayer", the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is" within God within you. Ok? Bawa. And in this way, and only in this way, allowing God to pulling Everything back into Himself within you, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind" within you, so in the End, God is no longer "Separate from" God within you, so in the End, Everything "Separating God From God" within you has been separated from you. Bawa. Or let your fate "Have its way" with you, when your "time is up" for deciding, that is, when you time for deciding "Who you are", and "Where you are", and "What is happening" in your life is up, and the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) within you finally finds you hiding like a coward behind your ego within you, because you are afraid of the "Open Space" around you, and then harvests you as "his property", with you kicking and screaming as he drags you off to an eternal life of "separation from" God within you, if you like. For the Choice is yours, not God's, that is, the Choice is your Choice, not "Our Choice" within you, or "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu. Akbar. Bawa. My love you, My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) who in truth is the "Other Side" of this "One Coin" because that is the Choice of "This Child", the Choice of Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Ok? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Is this enough for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. My love you, My dearest loving Father Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) who is in truth the "Other Side" of this "One Coin" because that is the Choice of "This Child", the Choice of Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. Yes Bawa, this is enough for tonight. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Then, how were the cookies Santa? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. The cookies were perfect. Anbu. ============================================================== Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 361 Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be please with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu), dearest loving Sons and Daughters, and brothers and sisters, and all of My Children - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. Here is Page 1 of 1 of an E-mail Version of "Spiritual Chat 361", a beautiful Spiritual Chat between our dearest loving Son Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and our dearest loving Son Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), at the "Feet of God" for our age, at the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), for the age of the "Justice of Conscience", where "Who you are?" is now "What is within you", no longer "What is on the outside of you" as most of My Children still mistakenly believe. Bawa. To read a longer Outline & Summary Version of the same Spiritual Chat, that is, of "Spiritual Chat 361", one with an Outline and with an Expanded Summary of some Outline Topics, please click HERE, or above in the "Main Go To", on Go To Outline & Summary Version. Thank you . Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen. Bawa. We have given this Sharing the following "Short Title", "Your Life Is The Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, That Is, "Whatever You Intend Is What You Will Receive". Bawa. And we have given this Sharing the following "Expanded Title", to better reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the "Feet of God" for your age, which in truth is the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of you, at the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), which in truth is each of you living in this age, if you like, for in truth the Choice is yours, not God's. Bawa. That is, if the true intention for your life within you, for your soul life, is to again become "One with" God within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state within you, that is, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of us, as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "separate from" each other within you, and as if you are "separate from' the Creation of God within you, all of which is "Just Not True". Expanded Title of Spiritual Chat 360 Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman And Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, on 11-23-06 "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Let God Have "His Way" With You, Before Your Fate Has "Its Way With You", That Is, To Let Bawa Harvest The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Within You, Before The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Harvests You, So God Can Finish What God Has Started Within You A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, So In The End, "No Child Is Left Behind" Within You, That Is, Everything Separating God From God Within You, Is Separated From You, If You Like, For The Choice To "Use Your Life" In This Way, Or Not, Before The Time For "Using Your Life" Is Over, Is Most Certainly Your Choice, Not God's. Amen. Ok?" Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. ============================================================== E-mail Version - of Spiritual Letter 361 [Note: The part of the following "Text" of this Spiritual Chat that is in "Red", is the part that is included in another section of this Web Page, that is, in "A Short Overview" of Spiritual Chat 361. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum My dearest loving Father Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Wa 'alaykum al-salam My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. "We" were not feeling well last night and when "we" asked Bawa within us, and God within Him what to do They said to go to bed and get some rest. Bawa. However "we" are feeling much better today. Alhamdulillah. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. Does "Our" dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) have any questions, comments, or sharings? mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Dear Father Bawa, can we discuss the balance between the right and the left? That is, if this is an appropriate topic for this time. Bawa. Bawa teaches us that our lives must be a balance between the right (that related to God and what He has kept within Himself) and the left (the world of illusion that we live in). In this way we can progress to the desired goal (that of understanding "who we are", that goal of unity with the Shaikh and God within Him). Bawa. Has your child understood properly what my Dear Father was teaching us when He was still "in the body" or was there misunderstanding? Bawa. Does this teaching still apply now, or are You teaching us something new for this current time in our lives? Bawa. Father forgive my faults, grant me Your Grace. Anbu. Part of Chat in "A Short Overview" [Note: All of the Dialogue above was provided by Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman himself, in anticipation of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen signing on, so they can Sit at the "Feet of God" for their age, with Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman playing both parts of the Dialogue, up to this point, as he has learned to do in such situation, that is, if Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen has not yet signed on, all of which is "Just Wonderful". For as Jesus (peace be upon Him) taught you over 2000 years ago and now as Bawa teaches you for your age, "If two of you come together in My Name, I will be there", The rest of the Dialogue, to follow, is after Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen signs on, which is about an hour after the above Dialogue took place, and occurs quite late at night, all of which is like the child trying to stay up Christmas Night to see if Santa Clause eats the cookies left for him by the child. An analogy used before in earlier Dialogues for similar situations, lovingly referred to below as "A Santa Clause Moment"]. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Does "Our" dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) have any questions, comments, or sharings? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes dear Father Bawa, can we discuss the balance between the right and the left? That is, if this is an appropriate topic for this time. Bawa. For example, Bawa teaches us that our lives must be a balance between the right (that related to God and what He has kept within Himself) and the left (the world of illusion that we live in). In this way, so we can progress to the desired goal (that of understanding "who we are", that goal of unity with the Shaikh and God within Him). Bawa. Has your child understood properly what my Dear Father was teaching us when He was still "in the body" or was there misunderstanding? Bawa. Does this teaching still apply now, or are You teaching us something new for this current time in our lives? Bawa. Father forgive my faults, grant me Your Grace. Anbu. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. And dear Father Bawa, is this a "Santa Clause moment" where this child should be in bed and not watching to see who eats the cookies? Anbu. [Note: Please see the full "Text" of Spiritual Chat 361 for an explanation of this reference to a "Santa Clause moment". To access the full "Text" please click on the following: "E-mail Version", and to access the explanation please click HERE. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes and No. Yes for Curtis and No for Bawa, which in a very beautiful way is the answer to the question that was asked. Bawa. For if "you" are Curtis on the "outside" of you, then there is a separation between the Giver, the Gift, and the Child, but if "You" are "One with" Bawa within you, and "One with" God within Him, then They are all One within you, that is, the Giver, the Gift, and the Child. Bawa. And the Choice is always yours, not God's, that is, the Choice of "Who you are", either Curtis or Bawa, either the illusory "outside" of you, or the true "inside" of you, either what "you" think in your ignorance and in your arrogance about your ignorance that "you" are doing on the "outside" of you, or what in truth "God is truly trying to do" with what is "Within God" within you, if you will only "Let Him", which is "Destroy you and Reveal Him", which is reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand what You are saying. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In this way, for Curtis there is never a balance between the right and the left because they are always seen as separate, but for Bawa they are One, they are God that is "speaking" without an understanding of "himself" leaving to again become Silent with an Understanding of Everything while God that is Silent with an Understanding of Everything comes forward to Speak with an Understanding of Himself, for the benefit of all of His Creation, which in truth is seen by God as "Himself happening" again, but this time within you, if you like. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "We" understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In this way, Curtis can never reach the desired goal of having Oneness, which in truth is the only balance between the right and left, which is the left leaving you as the right comes forward from within you, no matter what is Given to him, because he believes he is "separate from" Oneness, and from the One who Gives It, that is, he is "separate from" both the "Gift and the Giver", while Bawa within Curtis, and God within Bawa, is always the desired Goal of Oneness, no matter what He Gives or Receives or Experiences, because He has transcended all "separation from" Oneness. Bawa. And in this way, Curtis wants God or Oneness, while Bawa within Curtis, and God within Bawa, which is what God has hidden within Curtis, is God and Oneness, all of which is like an apple seed buried within the earth wanting an apple tree and its fruits, rather than "becoming it", rather than realizing, understanding, accepting, and joining with the truth hidden within it, and with the earth it is buried within, to germinate, that is, to let the "Truth surrender to the Truth" within it. Bawa. And in this way, to let the life of the apple seed buried within the earth as "separate from" end, and to let the life of "One with" to begin, to let the life of the apple tree begin, that is, to become the apple tree, and its fruits, and the sweet taste within each fruit, and again the apple seed, but this time a 1000 fold, if it likes, for the Choice is each apple seed's, not God's, for like most people, most apple seeds never germinate to the truth hidden within them. Bawa. Instead they rot in the earth and eventually die in the earth taking on 105 million rebirths, but never again as the apple seed, never again as the Story of the "Oneness of The Apple Tree and Its Fruits", a Story that it came to the earth, to join as "One with" the earth, to tell. Bawa. In this way, Curtis and each of My Children are quickly becoming like this, like the life of the apple seed that fails to germinate to the truth hidden within it, he is refusing to let the illusory life of impurity, of "separation and differences", surrounding the pure "Seed of God" hidden within him die, so the "Tree of God" hidden within it can live. Bawa. He is refusing to let Curtis end, so Bawa hidden within him, and God hidden within Bawa, can live and grow and come to maturity as the Katpaha Virudcham, as the "Wish Fulfilling Tree" growing within the Creation of God within God within him. Bawa. And in this way, like the apple seed that germinates, revealing the apple tree hidden within it, then reveal the "Fruits of God" from within that "Tree of God" within God within him, that is, reveal True Man within God within him, as True Prayer, the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is" within you. Bawa. A Prayer which "You" must start to say, without saying within you, starting with the "Prayer of the Eligible Virgin", or the Tariqat Prayer of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), A Prayer that is now truly within each of My Children, if you like, not because of anything that you have done, or failed to do, but because God has now placed it within you for your age, God has "Made it So" within you, if you like. Ok? [Note: To access an on-line version of "This Prayer", of the "Prayer of the Eligible Virgin", or the Tariqat Prayer of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, please click HERE (www.EligibleVirginPrayer.homestead.com), all of which is now part of the On-line wisdom material that "We" have now provided for you, if you like, both within the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and in the On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (www.Bawa.homestead.com), which in truth is now but a small reflection of "His Heart", and of what God has now placed within each of My Children, if you like. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen]. Bawa. And in this way, allow True Man to reveal God as the "Oneness of God and True Man" within God within Him, and in this way, bring to Completion the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man", that Curtis and each of My Children have come to this earth world to tell, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind", in the End, there is nothing still "separate from" God within you. Amen. Bawa. And in this way, your life is the Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, that is, "Whatever you intend is what you will receive". Bawa. So Stop acting "as if" you are "separate from" God within you, with faith and trust in God within you, as the "One" within you, and then in truth you are no longer "separate from" God within you, because God will then "Make It So", that is, God will complete your intention. Such is the "Power of God" within you, and the Power of your "Faith and Trust in God" within you, which in truth are "One Power" within you, which in truth is "The Power" within you, and the "Form of The Power" within you. Bawa. Which is why "We" taught you earlier, when "We" were in the world, and now why "We" teach you now, if you like, through the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), at least for a little while, until he too leaves the world, the following: 1) Without Iman there is no Islam, there is no Prophet Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within you, there is no "Straight Path or "True Prayer" within you 2) Without the Faith of "John The Baptist" there is no Christianity, there is no Jesus (peace be upon Them) within you, there is no "Liberation of the soul" within you 3) Without Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen there is no Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Them) wit,iin you there is no Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, there is no "Palace of the Soul", there is no "House Wisdom", there is no house of Qutb Muhaiyaddeen Abdul-Qadir al-Jilani (peace be upon Him) within you 4) Without True Man there is no God within you, there is no Creation of God within God within you, there is no "Bank of God" within you, there is no "Bank of True Man" within the "Bank of God" within you, there is no Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within you, there is no Completing This Story within you, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind" within you. Bawa. Please know this now, without the slightest doubt, and start to act accordingly. Ok? Bawa. So Stop acting "as if" you are "separate from" God within you, and from each other, and Start acting as "One with" God within you, as "One with" your brothers and sisters, and as "One with" the Creation of God within you, with faith and trust in God, as "Your Oneness" within you, and then God will "Make it So" within you. This is for sure. Bawa. For in truth, whether "you" are "Curtis, or any of My Children still living as "separate from" on the "outside" of you, which is still the state of all of My Children, or you become like "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), who truly learned from "Us" before "We" left the world, "How not to be there", so "We" can be there, in truth the Choice is yours, not God's. Bawa. That is, whether "you" are "Curtis" worshipping "Curtis" on the "outside" of you, or Curtis worshipping Bawa within you, and God within Him, seeing them all as "separate from" Curtis on the "outside" of you, or "You" are Bawa within you, that is, or "You" are Bawa within you worshipping God within Himself, by giving life to "You" within Himself, that is, by pulling "you" back into Himself, as His Understanding of Himself, so God within Him can then pull Him back into Himself as His Understanding of Himself, in this way, seeing Everything as "One with" Him within you, is your Choice, not God's. Bawa. That is, so God can then answer His question of God within Himself, that is, the Question "Who am I?", with God seeing Everything as One, with God seeing Everything as Himself happening within Himself, as God revealing God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you. Bawa. All of which in truth is in your hand, not God's hand, because God has put it in your hand, that is, not in "Our" hand within you, or in God's hand within "Us" within you. For in truth, "We" are always One within Everything within you, as in truth "you" are always "separate from" everything on the "outside" of you, but if you like, "We" can destroy you and reveal Us". Bawa. So please Stop all of your "Working for wages to get into heaven" for in the End you will be very disappointed, and instead join in partnership with God within you, before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, by saying the word "Bawa", or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen", or "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him), before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, as this child has learned to do. Bawa. And in this way, establish the "Presence of God" within you, allowing God to "Stand in Judgment" before all of His Creation within you, as the "Master of the Day of Judgment" within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state, and "you" get an eternal hell within you as "separate from" God within you. Bawa. And "Stand in Judgment" within you, before all of the Creation of God within you, because now "You" no longer exist as if you are "separate from" God within you, you no longer exist as what is standing between God and His Creation within you, allowing God to stand within you, as the, "Maliki yawmid-deen". Bawa. As "The Master of the Day of Judgment" within you, if you like, before you die to the flesh, if you like, with "you" joining in partnership with God within you, with each breath, each look, each word, each taste, and each thought, to let "you" end on the "outside" of you, and to let "Us" start to happen again within you. Bawa. And "We" will gladly do this true "Heart's Work" within you, if your intention is correct, if your intention is praiseworthy, that is, with you saying each day, until your last breath, the following prayer, as "We" told you to say each day, from the very beginning, in 1972, when "We" were living in the world, "O Our Father, Our Shaikh, Our Guru, We need your Love, Please, Please, Please, Destroy me and reveal you". Bawa. And as "We" do this "Heart's Work" within you, if you like, that is, if you so "Task Us" to do this "kind of work" within you, each day, as part of this work, "We" will then pull "You" into "Us", as the "Understanding of Us". Amen. Bawa. It is truly that simple. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "We" understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar Bawa. And an Example of this truth of the "Two Sides of the Same Coin" is the Series of Discourses given earlier to Curtis and to all of My Children, when "We" were in the world, the Series of Discourses known as "Bawa Speaks To Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Them), which appeared as "two" on the "outside" of you, but in truth is really One within "Us" within you, if you like. Bawa. And another Example of this truth is this Series of Discourses now being given to Curtis and to all of My Children, this Series known as "Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" Speaks to "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Them), that is, which also appear as "two" on the "outside" of you, but in truth is really One within "Us" within you, but this time as One within the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased within Him), if you like. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. So let yourself be both sides of the "One Coin", and then "You are", because God will "Make it So", or continue to keep holding onto yourself living as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "one side" of two "separate coins", and then "you are", because you have "made it so". Bawa. The Choice is always yours, not God's, that is, the Choice with each breath, with each look, with each word, with each taste, with each thought, the Choice of "Who you are", and "Where you are", and "What is happening" in your life, is always your Choice, not "Our Choice" within you, and not "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. So let "you" leave the illusory "outside" of you, which now is "One side" of the Coin that is "You, which in truth is the "Dream of the Qutb" within you, the side now living as if you are "separate from" God within you, and become again the "Motionless All Pervading One who is the Omniscient Silent One" within Everything within you. Bawa. So God can again come forward from within "You" as the "One who Speaks" from within you, which in truth is the awakened "Wisdom surrounding your soul", that is awakened by the "Word of God" for your age, the Qutb of God which is the "Dreamer of God" or the Qutb of God "Happening" within God within you, which is "Who your are" for the first three years of your life in this "School of Contrast" within you, overcoming 61 of the 64 arts within you, as the "True Student" within you, who has come to understand "Who You already are" within you, which is the "Oneness of God and True Man" within you, and then leave, then allow God within Him to tell the next Chapter in His Story, the Chapter on "True Prayer", the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is" within God within you. Ok? Bawa. And in this way, and only in this way, allowing God to pulling Everything back into Himself within you, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind" within you, so in the End, God is no longer "Separate from" God within you, so in the End, Everything "Separating God From God" within you has been separated from you. Bawa. Or let your fate "Have its way" with you, when your "time is up" for deciding, that is, when you time for deciding "Who you are", and "Where you are", and "What is happening" in your life is up, and the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) within you finally finds you hiding like a coward behind your ego within you, because you are afraid of the "Open Space" around you, and then harvests you as "his property", with you kicking and screaming as he drags you off to an eternal life of "separation from" God within you, if you like. For the Choice is yours, not God's, that is, the Choice is your Choice, not "Our Choice" within you, or "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu. Akbar. Bawa. My love you, My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) who in truth is the "Other Side" of this "One Coin" because that is the Choice of "This Child", the Choice of Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Ok? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Is this enough for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. My love you, My dearest loving Father Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) who is in truth the "Other Side" of this "One Coin" because that is the Choice of "This Child", the Choice of Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. Yes Bawa, this is enough for tonight. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Then, how were the cookies Santa? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. The cookies were perfect. Anbu. End of ----- Part of Chat in "A Short Overview" ----- MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. Please give all of "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyadeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Bawa. And as always, please join with "Us" within you, and with God within "Us" to share this sharing with them, by letting "God have His way with You", by letting God finish what God has started within You a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you, if you like, for the Choice to use your life in this way, before the time for "using your life" is over, or not, is most certainly your Choice, not God's. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we will certainly do as You ask and join with You within "us" and with God within You to share this sharing with all of My Children by letting "God have His way with me", by letting God finish what God has started within me a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within me, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within me, if "we" like, for the Choice to use my life in that way, before the time for "using my life" is over, or not, is most certainly my Choice, not God's. Amen. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. Please give all of "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyadeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. "We" have given "Our Little Chat" the following Title: "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Let God Have His Way With You, Before Your Fate Has "Its Way With You", That Is, To Let Bawa Harvest The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Within You, Before The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Harvests You, So God Can Finish What God Has Started Within You A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, So In The End, "No Child Is Left Behind" Within You, If You Like, For The Choice To Use Your Life In That Way, Or Not, Before The Time For "Using Your Life" Is Over, Is Most Certainly Your Choice, Not God's Amen. Ok?" mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, let it be done in this way for the benefit of all the creations of God within "Us" and us within the True Shaikh and God within Him. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Close but "No Cigar" Grasshopper. Bawa. Should be, "For the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within "Us", with "Us" happily, and peacefully, and joyfully having let the "us" end. mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In reviewing "Our Little Chat" at the Feet of God for our age, Bawa within "Us" and God within Him, made the following adjustments, to the Title: "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Let God Have "His Way" With You, Before Your Fate Has "Its Way With You", That Is, To Let Bawa Harvest The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Within You, Before The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Harvests You, So God Can Finish What God Has Started Within You A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, So In The End, "No Child Is Left Behind" Within You, That Is, If You Like, For The Choice To "Use Your Life" In This Way, Or Not, Before The Time For "Using Your Life" Is Over, Is Most Certainly Your Choice, Not God's Amen. Ok?" mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, let it be done in this way for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within "Us", with "Us" happily, and peacefully, and joyfully having let the "us" end. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Much, Much better. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In reviewing "Our Little Chat" at the Feet of God for our age, Bawa within "Us" and God within Him, made the following additional adjustments, to the Title (see underlined part): "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Let God Have "His Way" With You, Before Your Fate Has "Its Way With You", That Is, To Let Bawa Harvest The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Within You, Before The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Harvests You, So God Can Finish What God Has Started Within You A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, So In The End, "No Child Is Left Behind" Within You, That Is, Everything Separating God From God Within You, Is Separated From You, If You Like, For The Choice To "Use Your Life" In This Way, Or Not, Before The Time For "Using Your Life" Is Over, Is Most Certainly Your Choice, Not God's Amen. Ok?" mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. End of "Page 1 of 1" of "E-mail Version" of - Spiritual Chat 361 - ........................... |
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Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Does "Our" dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) have any questions, comments, or sharings? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes dear Father Bawa, can we discuss the balance between the right and the left? That is, if this is an appropriate topic for this time. Bawa. For example, Bawa teaches us that our lives must be a balance between the right (that related to God and what He has kept within Himself) and the left (the world of illusion that we live in). In this way, so we can progress to the desired goal (that of understanding "who we are", that goal of unity with the Shaikh and God within Him). Bawa. Has your child understood properly what my Dear Father was teaching us when He was still "in the body" or was there misunderstanding? Bawa. Does this teaching still apply now, or are You teaching us something new for this current time in our lives? Bawa. Father forgive my faults, grant me Your Grace. Anbu. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. And dear Father Bawa, is this a "Santa Clause moment" where this child should be in bed and not watching to see who eats the cookies? Anbu. [Note: Please see the full "Text" of Spiritual Chat 361 for an explanation of this reference to a "Santa Clause moment". To access the full "Text" please click on the following: "E-mail Version". Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes and No. Yes for Curtis and No for Bawa, which in a very beautiful way is the answer to the question that was asked. Bawa. For if "you" are Curtis on the "outside" of you, then there is a separation between the Giver, the Gift, and the Child, but if "You" are "One with" Bawa within you, and "One with" God within Him, then They are all One within you, that is, the Giver, the Gift, and the Child. Bawa. And the Choice is always yours, not God's, that is, the Choice of "Who you are", either Curtis or Bawa, either the illusory "outside" of you, or the true "inside" of you, either what "you" think in your ignorance and in your arrogance about your ignorance that "you" are doing on the "outside" of you, or what in truth "God is truly trying to do" with what is "Within God" within you, if you will only "Let Him", which is "Destroy you and Reveal Him", which is reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand what You are saying. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In this way, for Curtis there is never a balance between the right and the left because they are always seen as separate, but for Bawa they are One, they are God that is "speaking" without an understanding of "himself" leaving to again become Silent with an Understanding of Everything while God that is Silent with an Understanding of Everything comes forward to Speak with an Understanding of Himself, for the benefit of all of His Creation, which in truth is seen by God as "Himself happening" again, but this time within you, if you like. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "We" understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In this way, Curtis can never reach the desired goal of having Oneness, which in truth is the only balance between the right and left, which is the left leaving you as the right comes forward from within you, no matter what is Given to him, because he believes he is "separate from" Oneness, and from the One who Gives It, that is, he is "separate from" both the "Gift and the Giver", while Bawa within Curtis, and God within Bawa, is always the desired Goal of Oneness, no matter what He Gives or Receives or Experiences, because He has transcended all "separation from" Oneness. Bawa. And in this way, Curtis wants God or Oneness, while Bawa within Curtis, and God within Bawa, which is what God has hidden within Curtis, is God and Oneness, all of which is like an apple seed buried within the earth wanting an apple tree and its fruits, rather than "becoming it", rather than realizing, understanding, accepting, and joining with the truth hidden within it, and with the earth it is buried within, to germinate, that is, to let the "Truth surrender to the Truth" within it. Bawa. And in this way, to let the life of the apple seed buried within the earth as "separate from" end, and to let the life of "One with" to begin, to let the life of the apple tree begin, that is, to become the apple tree, and its fruits, and the sweet taste within each fruit, and again the apple seed, but this time a 1000 fold, if it likes, for the Choice is each apple seed's, not God's, for like most people, most apple seeds never germinate to the truth hidden within them. Bawa. Instead they rot in the earth and eventually die in the earth taking on 105 million rebirths, but never again as the apple seed, never again as the Story of the "Oneness of The Apple Tree and Its Fruits", a Story that it came to the earth, to join as "One with" the earth, to tell. Bawa. In this way, Curtis and each of My Children are quickly becoming like this, like the life of the apple seed that fails to germinate to the truth hidden within it, he is refusing to let the illusory life of impurity, of "separation and differences", surrounding the pure "Seed of God" hidden within him die, so the "Tree of God" hidden within it can live. Bawa. He is refusing to let Curtis end, so Bawa hidden within him, and God hidden within Bawa, can live and grow and come to maturity as the Katpaha Virudcham, as the "Wish Fulfilling Tree" growing within the Creation of God within God within him. Bawa. And in this way, like the apple seed that germinates, revealing the apple tree hidden within it, then reveal the "Fruits of God" from within that "Tree of God" within God within him, that is, reveal True Man within God within him, as True Prayer, the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is" within you Bawa. A Prayer which "You" must start to say, without saying within you, starting with the "Prayer of the Eligible Virgin", or the Tariqat Prayer of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), A Prayer that is now truly within each of My Children, if you like, not because of anything that you have done, or failed to do, but because God has now placed it within you for your age, God has "Made it So" within you, if you like. Ok? [Note: To access an on-line version of "This Prayer", of the "Prayer of the Eligible Virgin", or the Tariqat Prayer of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, please click HERE (www.EligibleVirginPrayer.homestead.com), all of which is now part of the On-line wisdom material that "We" have now provided for you, if you like, both within the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and in the On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (www.Bawa.homestead.com), which in truth is now but a small reflection of "His Heart", and of what God has now placed within each of My Children, if you like. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen]. Bawa. And in this way, allow True Man to reveal God as the "Oneness of God and True Man" within God within Him, and in this way, bring to Completion the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man", that Curtis and each of My Children have come to this earth world to tell, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind", in the End, there is nothing still "separate from" God within you. Amen. Bawa. And in this way, your life is the Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, that is, "Whatever you intend is what you will receive". Bawa. So Stop acting "as if" you are "separate from" God within you, with faith and trust in God within you, as the "One" within you, and then in truth you are no longer "separate from" God within you, because God will then "Make It So", that is, God will complete your intention. Such is the "Power of God" within you, and the Power of your "Faith and Trust in God" within you, which in truth are "One Power" within you, which in truth is "The Power" within you, and the "Form of The Power" within you. Bawa. Which is why "We" taught you earlier, when "We" were in the world, and now why "We" teach you now, if you like, through the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), at least for a little while, until he too leaves the world, the following: 1) Without Iman there is no Islam, there is no Prophet Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within you, there is no "Straight Path or "True Prayer" within you 2) Without the Faith of "John The Baptist" there is no Christianity, there is no Jesus (peace be upon Them) within you, there is no "Liberation of the soul" within you 3) Without Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen there is no Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Them), there is no Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, there is no "Palace of the Soul", there is no "House Wisdom", there is no house of Qutb Muhaiyaddeen Abdul-Qadir al-Jilani (peace be upon Him) within you 4) Without True Man there is no God within you, there is no Creation of God within God within you, there is no "Bank of God" within you, there is no "Bank of True Man" within the "Bank of God" within you, there is no Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within you, there is no Completing This Story within you, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind" within you. Bawa. Please know this now, without the slightest doubt, and start to act accordingly. Ok? Bawa. So Stop acting "as if" you are "separate from" God within you, and from each other, and Start acting as "One with" God within you, as "One with" your brothers and sisters, and as "One with" the Creation of God within you, with faith and trust in God, as "Your Oneness" within you, and then God will "Make it So" within you. This is for sure. Bawa. For in truth, whether "you" are "Curtis, or any of My Children still living as "separate from" on the "outside" of you, which is still the state of all of My Children, or you become like "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), who truly learned from "Us" before "We" left the world, "How not to be there", so "We" can be there, in truth the Choice is yours, not God's. Bawa. That is, whether "you" are "Curtis" worshipping "Curtis" on the "outside" of you, or Curtis worshipping Bawa within you, and God within Him, seeing them all as "separate from" Curtis on the "outside" of you, or "You" are Bawa within you, that is, or "You" are Bawa within you worshipping God within Himself, by giving life to "You" within Himself, that is, by pulling "you" back into Himself, as His Understanding of Himself, so God within Him can then pull Him back into Himself as His Understanding of Himself, in this way, seeing Everything as "One with" Him within you, is your Choice, not God's. Bawa. That is, so God can then answer His question of God within Himself, that is, the Question "Who am I?", with God seeing Everything as One, with God seeing Everything as Himself happening within Himself, as God revealing God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you. Bawa. All of which in truth is in your hand, not God's hand, because God has put it in your hand, that is, not in "Our" hand within you, or in God's hand within "Us" within you. For in truth, "We" are always One within Everything within you, as in truth "you" are always "separate from" everything on the "outside" of you, but if you like, "We" can destroy you and reveal Us". Bawa. So please Stop all of your "Working for wages to get into heaven" for in the End you will be very disappointed, and instead join in partnership with God within you, before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, by saying the word "Bawa", or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen", or "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him), before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, as this child has learned to do. Bawa. And in this way, establish the "Presence of God" within you, allowing God to "Stand in Judgment" before all of His Creation within you, as the "Master of the Day of Judgment" within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state, and "you" get an eternal hell within you as "separate from" God within you. Bawa. And "Stand in Judgment" within you, before all of the Creation of God within you, because now "You" no longer exist as if you are "separate from" God within you, you no longer exist as what is standing between God and His Creation within you, allowing God to stand within you, as the, "Maliki yawmid-deen". Bawa. As "The Master of the Day of Judgment" within you, if you like, before you die to the flesh, if you like, with "you" joining in partnership with God within you, with each breath, each look, each word, each taste, and each thought, to let "you" end on the "outside" of you, and to let "Us" start to happen again within you. Bawa. And "We" will gladly do this true "Heart's Work" within you, if your intention is correct, if your intention is praiseworthy, that is, with you saying each day, until your last breath, the following prayer, as "We" told you to say each day, from the very beginning, in 1972, when "We" were living in the world, "O Our Father, Our Shaikh, Our Guru, We need your Love, Please, Please, Please, Destroy me and reveal you". Bawa. And as "We" do this "Heart's Work" within you, if you like, that is, if you so "Task Us" to do this "kind of work" within you, each day, as part of this work, "We" will then pull "You" into "Us", as the "Understanding of Us". Amen. Bawa. It is truly that simple. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "We" understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar Bawa. And an Example of this truth of the "Two Sides of the Same Coin" is the Series of Discourses given earlier to Curtis and to all of My Children, when "We" were in the world, the Series of Discourses known as "Bawa Speaks To Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Them), which appeared as "two" on the "outside" of you, but in truth is really One within "Us" within you, if you like. Bawa. And another Example of this truth is this Series of Discourses now being given to Curtis and to all of My Children, this Series known as "Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" Speaks to "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Them), that is, which also appear as "two" on the "outside" of you, but in truth is really One within "Us" within you, but this time as One within the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased within Him), if you like. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. So let yourself be both sides of the "One Coin", and then "You are", because God will "Make it So", or continue to keep holding onto yourself living as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "one side" of two "separate coins", and then "you are", because you have "made it so". Bawa. The Choice is always yours, not God's, that is, the Choice with each breath, with each look, with each word, with each taste, with each thought, the Choice of "Who you are", and "Where you are", and "What is happening" in your life, is always your Choice, not "Our Choice" within you, and not "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. So let "you" leave the illusory "outside" of you, which now is "One side" of the Coin that is "You, which in truth is the "Dream of the Qutb" within you, the side now living as if you are "separate from" God within you, and become again the "Motionless All Pervading One who is the Omniscient Silent One" within Everything within you. Bawa. So God can again come forward from within "You" as the "One who Speaks" from within you, which in truth is the awakened "Wisdom surrounding your soul", that is awakened by the "Word of God" for your age, the Qutb of God which is the "Dreamer of God" or the Qutb of God "Happening" within God within you, which is "Who your are" for the first three years of your life in this "School of Contrast" within you, overcoming 61 of the 64 arts within you, as the "True Student" within you, who has come to understand "Who You already are" within you, which is the "Oneness of God and True Man" within you, and then leave, then allow God within Him to tell the next Chapter in His Story, the Chapter on "True Prayer", the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is" within God within you. Ok? Bawa. And in this way, and only in this way, allowing God to pulling Everything back into Himself within you, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind" within you, so in the End, God is no longer "Separate from" God within you, so in the End, Everything "Separating God From God" within you has been separated from you. Bawa. Or let your fate "Have its way" with you, when your "time is up" for deciding, that is, when you time for deciding "Who you are", and "Where you are", and "What is happening" in your life is up, and the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) within you finally finds you hiding like a coward behind your ego within you, because you are afraid of the "Open Space" around you, and then harvests you as "his property", with you kicking and screaming as he drags you off to an eternal life of "separation from" God within you, if you like. For the Choice is yours, not God's, that is, the Choice is your Choice, not "Our Choice" within you, or "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu. Akbar. Bawa. My love you, My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) who in truth is the "Other Side" of this "One Coin" because that is the Choice of "This Child", the Choice of Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Ok? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Is this enough for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. My love you, My dearest loving Father Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) who is in truth the "Other Side" of this "One Coin" because that is the Choice of "This Child", the Choice of Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. Yes Bawa, this is enough for tonight. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Then, how were the cookies Santa? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. The cookies were perfect. Anbu. ============================================================== Introduction - to Spiritual Chat 361 Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. Wa 'alaykum al-salam wa-rahmat Allah wa-barakatuhu kulluhu. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be please with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu), dearest loving Sons and Daughters, and brothers and sisters, and all of My Children - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. Here is Page 1 of 1 of an E-mail Version of "Spiritual Chat 361", a beautiful Spiritual Chat between our dearest loving Son Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman (Curtis Wahlgren) and our dearest loving Son Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (Louie Beutler), at the "Feet of God" for our age, at the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us), for the age of the "Justice of Conscience", where "Who you are?" is now "What is within you", no longer "What is on the outside of you" as most of My Children still mistakenly believe. Bawa. To read a longer Outline & Summary Version of the same Spiritual Chat, that is, of "Spiritual Chat 361", one with an Outline and with an Expanded Summary of some Outline Topics, please click HERE, or above in the "Main Go To", on Go To Outline & Summary Version. Thank you . Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen. Bawa. We have given this Sharing the following "Short Title", "Your Life Is The Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, That Is, "Whatever You Intend Is What You Will Receive". Bawa. And we have given this Sharing the following "Expanded Title", to better reflect the multiple focus of this sharing, at the "Feet of God" for your age, which in truth is the feet of your dearest loving Father, Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him) within you, and of God within Him, and now on the "outside" of you, at the feet of His Children (may God be pleased with each of Us), which in truth is each of you living in this age, if you like, for in truth the Choice is yours, not God's. Bawa. That is, if the true intention for your life within you, for your soul life, is to again become "One with" God within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state within you, that is, in our current state of living a life of "separation and differences" on the illusory "outside" of us, as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "separate from" each other within you, and as if you are "separate from' the Creation of God within you, all of which is "Just Not True". Expanded Title of Spiritual Chat 360 Between: Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman And Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen, on 11-23-06 "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Let God Have "His Way" With You, Before Your Fate Has "Its Way With You", That Is, To Let Bawa Harvest The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Within You, Before The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Harvests You, So God Can Finish What God Has Started Within You A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, So In The End, "No Child Is Left Behind" Within You, That Is, Everything Separating God From God Within You, Is Separated From You, If You Like, For The Choice To "Use Your Life" In This Way, Or Not, Before The Time For "Using Your Life" Is Over, Is Most Certainly Your Choice, Not God's. Amen. Ok?" Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you (anbu) - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. ============================================================== E-mail Version - of Spiritual Letter 361 [Note: The part of the following "Text" of this Spiritual Chat that is in "Red", is the part that is included in another section of this Web Page, that is, in "A Short Overview" of Spiritual Chat 361. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Al-salam 'alaykum My dearest loving Father Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. In the Name of God, Most Merciful, Most Compassionate. Bawa. Wa 'alaykum al-salam My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Bismillahir-Rahmanir-Rahim. "We" were not feeling well last night and when "we" asked Bawa within us, and God within Him what to do They said to go to bed and get some rest. Bawa. However "we" are feeling much better today. Alhamdulillah. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. Does "Our" dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) have any questions, comments, or sharings? mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Dear Father Bawa, can we discuss the balance between the right and the left? That is, if this is an appropriate topic for this time. Bawa. Bawa teaches us that our lives must be a balance between the right (that related to God and what He has kept within Himself) and the left (the world of illusion that we live in). In this way we can progress to the desired goal (that of understanding "who we are", that goal of unity with the Shaikh and God within Him). Bawa. Has your child understood properly what my Dear Father was teaching us when He was still "in the body" or was there misunderstanding? Bawa. Does this teaching still apply now, or are You teaching us something new for this current time in our lives? Bawa. Father forgive my faults, grant me Your Grace. Anbu. Part of Chat in "A Short Overview" [Note: All of the Dialogue above was provided by Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman himself, in anticipation of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen signing on, so they can Sit at the "Feet of God" for their age, with Muhammad Muhaiyaddeen Sulaiman playing both parts of the Dialogue, up to this point, as he has learned to do in such situation, that is, if Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen has not yet signed on, all of which is "Just Wonderful". For as Jesus (peace be upon Him) taught you over 2000 years ago and now as Bawa teaches you for your age, "If two of you come together in My Name, I will be there", The rest of the Dialogue, to follow, is after Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen signs on, which is about an hour after the above Dialogue took place, and occurs quite late at night, all of which is like the child trying to stay up Christmas Night to see if Santa Clause eats the cookies left for him by the child. An analogy used before in earlier Dialogues for similar situations, lovingly referred to below as "A Santa Clause Moment"]. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Does "Our" dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) have any questions, comments, or sharings? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes dear Father Bawa, can we discuss the balance between the right and the left? That is, if this is an appropriate topic for this time. Bawa. For example, Bawa teaches us that our lives must be a balance between the right (that related to God and what He has kept within Himself) and the left (the world of illusion that we live in). In this way, so we can progress to the desired goal (that of understanding "who we are", that goal of unity with the Shaikh and God within Him). Bawa. Has your child understood properly what my Dear Father was teaching us when He was still "in the body" or was there misunderstanding? Bawa. Does this teaching still apply now, or are You teaching us something new for this current time in our lives? Bawa. Father forgive my faults, grant me Your Grace. Anbu. MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. And dear Father Bawa, is this a "Santa Clause moment" where this child should be in bed and not watching to see who eats the cookies? Anbu. [Note: Please see the full "Text" of Spiritual Chat 361 for an explanation of this reference to a "Santa Clause moment". To access the full "Text" please click on the following: "E-mail Version", and to access the explanation please click HERE. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen] MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Yes and No. Yes for Curtis and No for Bawa, which in a very beautiful way is the answer to the question that was asked. Bawa. For if "you" are Curtis on the "outside" of you, then there is a separation between the Giver, the Gift, and the Child, but if "You" are "One with" Bawa within you, and "One with" God within Him, then They are all One within you, that is, the Giver, the Gift, and the Child. Bawa. And the Choice is always yours, not God's, that is, the Choice of "Who you are", either Curtis or Bawa, either the illusory "outside" of you, or the true "inside" of you, either what "you" think in your ignorance and in your arrogance about your ignorance that "you" are doing on the "outside" of you, or what in truth "God is truly trying to do" with what is "Within God" within you, if you will only "Let Him", which is "Destroy you and Reveal Him", which is reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand what You are saying. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In this way, for Curtis there is never a balance between the right and the left because they are always seen as separate, but for Bawa they are One, they are God that is "speaking" without an understanding of "himself" leaving to again become Silent with an Understanding of Everything while God that is Silent with an Understanding of Everything comes forward to Speak with an Understanding of Himself, for the benefit of all of His Creation, which in truth is seen by God as "Himself happening" again, but this time within you, if you like. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "We" understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In this way, Curtis can never reach the desired goal of having Oneness, which in truth is the only balance between the right and left, which is the left leaving you as the right comes forward from within you, no matter what is Given to him, because he believes he is "separate from" Oneness, and from the One who Gives It, that is, he is "separate from" both the "Gift and the Giver", while Bawa within Curtis, and God within Bawa, is always the desired Goal of Oneness, no matter what He Gives or Receives or Experiences, because He has transcended all "separation from" Oneness. Bawa. And in this way, Curtis wants God or Oneness, while Bawa within Curtis, and God within Bawa, which is what God has hidden within Curtis, is God and Oneness, all of which is like an apple seed buried within the earth wanting an apple tree and its fruits, rather than "becoming it", rather than realizing, understanding, accepting, and joining with the truth hidden within it, and with the earth it is buried within, to germinate, that is, to let the "Truth surrender to the Truth" within it. Bawa. And in this way, to let the life of the apple seed buried within the earth as "separate from" end, and to let the life of "One with" to begin, to let the life of the apple tree begin, that is, to become the apple tree, and its fruits, and the sweet taste within each fruit, and again the apple seed, but this time a 1000 fold, if it likes, for the Choice is each apple seed's, not God's, for like most people, most apple seeds never germinate to the truth hidden within them. Bawa. Instead they rot in the earth and eventually die in the earth taking on 105 million rebirths, but never again as the apple seed, never again as the Story of the "Oneness of The Apple Tree and Its Fruits", a Story that it came to the earth, to join as "One with" the earth, to tell. Bawa. In this way, Curtis and each of My Children are quickly becoming like this, like the life of the apple seed that fails to germinate to the truth hidden within it, he is refusing to let the illusory life of impurity, of "separation and differences", surrounding the pure "Seed of God" hidden within him die, so the "Tree of God" hidden within it can live. Bawa. He is refusing to let Curtis end, so Bawa hidden within him, and God hidden within Bawa, can live and grow and come to maturity as the Katpaha Virudcham, as the "Wish Fulfilling Tree" growing within the Creation of God within God within him. Bawa. And in this way, like the apple seed that germinates, revealing the apple tree hidden within it, then reveal the "Fruits of God" from within that "Tree of God" within God within him, that is, reveal True Man within God within him, as True Prayer, the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is" within you. Bawa. A Prayer which "You" must start to say, without saying within you, starting with the "Prayer of the Eligible Virgin", or the Tariqat Prayer of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), A Prayer that is now truly within each of My Children, if you like, not because of anything that you have done, or failed to do, but because God has now placed it within you for your age, God has "Made it So" within you, if you like. Ok? [Note: To access an on-line version of "This Prayer", of the "Prayer of the Eligible Virgin", or the Tariqat Prayer of Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, please click HERE (www.EligibleVirginPrayer.homestead.com), all of which is now part of the On-line wisdom material that "We" have now provided for you, if you like, both within the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), and in the On-line Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Library (www.Bawa.homestead.com), which in truth is now but a small reflection of "His Heart", and of what God has now placed within each of My Children, if you like. Thank you. Enjoy. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Amen]. Bawa. And in this way, allow True Man to reveal God as the "Oneness of God and True Man" within God within Him, and in this way, bring to Completion the Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man", that Curtis and each of My Children have come to this earth world to tell, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind", in the End, there is nothing still "separate from" God within you. Amen. Bawa. And in this way, your life is the Ultimate Self-Fulfilling Prophesy, that is, "Whatever you intend is what you will receive". Bawa. So Stop acting "as if" you are "separate from" God within you, with faith and trust in God within you, as the "One" within you, and then in truth you are no longer "separate from" God within you, because God will then "Make It So", that is, God will complete your intention. Such is the "Power of God" within you, and the Power of your "Faith and Trust in God" within you, which in truth are "One Power" within you, which in truth is "The Power" within you, and the "Form of The Power" within you. Bawa. Which is why "We" taught you earlier, when "We" were in the world, and now why "We" teach you now, if you like, through the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), at least for a little while, until he too leaves the world, the following: 1) Without Iman there is no Islam, there is no Prophet Muhammad (blessing and peace be upon Him) within you, there is no "Straight Path or "True Prayer" within you 2) Without the Faith of "John The Baptist" there is no Christianity, there is no Jesus (peace be upon Them) within you, there is no "Liberation of the soul" within you 3) Without Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen there is no Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Them) wit,iin you there is no Bawa Muhaiyaddeen Fellowship, there is no "Palace of the Soul", there is no "House Wisdom", there is no house of Qutb Muhaiyaddeen Abdul-Qadir al-Jilani (peace be upon Him) within you 4) Without True Man there is no God within you, there is no Creation of God within God within you, there is no "Bank of God" within you, there is no "Bank of True Man" within the "Bank of God" within you, there is no Story of the "Oneness of God and True Man" within you, there is no Completing This Story within you, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind" within you. Bawa. Please know this now, without the slightest doubt, and start to act accordingly. Ok? Bawa. So Stop acting "as if" you are "separate from" God within you, and from each other, and Start acting as "One with" God within you, as "One with" your brothers and sisters, and as "One with" the Creation of God within you, with faith and trust in God, as "Your Oneness" within you, and then God will "Make it So" within you. This is for sure. Bawa. For in truth, whether "you" are "Curtis, or any of My Children still living as "separate from" on the "outside" of you, which is still the state of all of My Children, or you become like "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him), who truly learned from "Us" before "We" left the world, "How not to be there", so "We" can be there, in truth the Choice is yours, not God's. Bawa. That is, whether "you" are "Curtis" worshipping "Curtis" on the "outside" of you, or Curtis worshipping Bawa within you, and God within Him, seeing them all as "separate from" Curtis on the "outside" of you, or "You" are Bawa within you, that is, or "You" are Bawa within you worshipping God within Himself, by giving life to "You" within Himself, that is, by pulling "you" back into Himself, as His Understanding of Himself, so God within Him can then pull Him back into Himself as His Understanding of Himself, in this way, seeing Everything as "One with" Him within you, is your Choice, not God's. Bawa. That is, so God can then answer His question of God within Himself, that is, the Question "Who am I?", with God seeing Everything as One, with God seeing Everything as Himself happening within Himself, as God revealing God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you. Bawa. All of which in truth is in your hand, not God's hand, because God has put it in your hand, that is, not in "Our" hand within you, or in God's hand within "Us" within you. For in truth, "We" are always One within Everything within you, as in truth "you" are always "separate from" everything on the "outside" of you, but if you like, "We" can destroy you and reveal Us". Bawa. So please Stop all of your "Working for wages to get into heaven" for in the End you will be very disappointed, and instead join in partnership with God within you, before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, by saying the word "Bawa", or "Bawa Muhaiyaddeen", or "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Him), before you "Say or Do or Write" anything, as this child has learned to do. Bawa. And in this way, establish the "Presence of God" within you, allowing God to "Stand in Judgment" before all of His Creation within you, as the "Master of the Day of Judgment" within you, before you die to the flesh in your current state, and "you" get an eternal hell within you as "separate from" God within you. Bawa. And "Stand in Judgment" within you, before all of the Creation of God within you, because now "You" no longer exist as if you are "separate from" God within you, you no longer exist as what is standing between God and His Creation within you, allowing God to stand within you, as the, "Maliki yawmid-deen". Bawa. As "The Master of the Day of Judgment" within you, if you like, before you die to the flesh, if you like, with "you" joining in partnership with God within you, with each breath, each look, each word, each taste, and each thought, to let "you" end on the "outside" of you, and to let "Us" start to happen again within you. Bawa. And "We" will gladly do this true "Heart's Work" within you, if your intention is correct, if your intention is praiseworthy, that is, with you saying each day, until your last breath, the following prayer, as "We" told you to say each day, from the very beginning, in 1972, when "We" were living in the world, "O Our Father, Our Shaikh, Our Guru, We need your Love, Please, Please, Please, Destroy me and reveal you". Bawa. And as "We" do this "Heart's Work" within you, if you like, that is, if you so "Task Us" to do this "kind of work" within you, each day, as part of this work, "We" will then pull "You" into "Us", as the "Understanding of Us". Amen. Bawa. It is truly that simple. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, "We" understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar Bawa. And an Example of this truth of the "Two Sides of the Same Coin" is the Series of Discourses given earlier to Curtis and to all of My Children, when "We" were in the world, the Series of Discourses known as "Bawa Speaks To Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Them), which appeared as "two" on the "outside" of you, but in truth is really One within "Us" within you, if you like. Bawa. And another Example of this truth is this Series of Discourses now being given to Curtis and to all of My Children, this Series known as "Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" Speaks to "Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen" (may God be pleased with Them), that is, which also appear as "two" on the "outside" of you, but in truth is really One within "Us" within you, but this time as One within the heart of "Our" dearest loving Son, and your dearest loving brother Shaikh Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased within Him), if you like. Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. So let yourself be both sides of the "One Coin", and then "You are", because God will "Make it So", or continue to keep holding onto yourself living as if you are "separate from" God within you, as if you are "one side" of two "separate coins", and then "you are", because you have "made it so". Bawa. The Choice is always yours, not God's, that is, the Choice with each breath, with each look, with each word, with each taste, with each thought, the Choice of "Who you are", and "Where you are", and "What is happening" in your life, is always your Choice, not "Our Choice" within you, and not "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. So let "you" leave the illusory "outside" of you, which now is "One side" of the Coin that is "You, which in truth is the "Dream of the Qutb" within you, the side now living as if you are "separate from" God within you, and become again the "Motionless All Pervading One who is the Omniscient Silent One" within Everything within you. Bawa. So God can again come forward from within "You" as the "One who Speaks" from within you, which in truth is the awakened "Wisdom surrounding your soul", that is awakened by the "Word of God" for your age, the Qutb of God which is the "Dreamer of God" or the Qutb of God "Happening" within God within you, which is "Who your are" for the first three years of your life in this "School of Contrast" within you, overcoming 61 of the 64 arts within you, as the "True Student" within you, who has come to understand "Who You already are" within you, which is the "Oneness of God and True Man" within you, and then leave, then allow God within Him to tell the next Chapter in His Story, the Chapter on "True Prayer", the "Prayer of the One to the One who Is" within God within you. Ok? Bawa. And in this way, and only in this way, allowing God to pulling Everything back into Himself within you, so in the End, "No Child Is Left Behind" within you, so in the End, God is no longer "Separate from" God within you, so in the End, Everything "Separating God From God" within you has been separated from you. Bawa. Or let your fate "Have its way" with you, when your "time is up" for deciding, that is, when you time for deciding "Who you are", and "Where you are", and "What is happening" in your life is up, and the Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) within you finally finds you hiding like a coward behind your ego within you, because you are afraid of the "Open Space" around you, and then harvests you as "his property", with you kicking and screaming as he drags you off to an eternal life of "separation from" God within you, if you like. For the Choice is yours, not God's, that is, the Choice is your Choice, not "Our Choice" within you, or "God's Choice" within "Us". Ok? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu. Akbar. Bawa. My love you, My dearest loving Son Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) who in truth is the "Other Side" of this "One Coin" because that is the Choice of "This Child", the Choice of Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Ok? MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Is this enough for tonight? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. My love you, My dearest loving Father Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) who is in truth the "Other Side" of this "One Coin" because that is the Choice of "This Child", the Choice of Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. Bawa. Yes Bawa, this is enough for tonight. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Then, how were the cookies Santa? MMSulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. The cookies were perfect. Anbu. End of ----- Part of Chat in "A Short Overview" ----- MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. Please give all of "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyadeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Bawa. And as always, please join with "Us" within you, and with God within "Us" to share this sharing with them, by letting "God have His way with You", by letting God finish what God has started within You a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within you, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within you, if you like, for the Choice to use your life in this way, before the time for "using your life" is over, or not, is most certainly your Choice, not God's. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we will certainly do as You ask and join with You within "us" and with God within You to share this sharing with all of My Children by letting "God have His way with me", by letting God finish what God has started within me a very, very long time ago, which is to reveal God to God within me, for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within me, if "we" like, for the Choice to use my life in that way, before the time for "using my life" is over, or not, is most certainly my Choice, not God's. Amen. Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. Please give all of "Our" love and salams to all of My Children. Please tell them that Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyadeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us) loves them very, very much, and that they are always in "Our" prayers. Bawa. My love you - Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Bawa. "We" have given "Our Little Chat" the following Title: "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Let God Have His Way With You, Before Your Fate Has "Its Way With You", That Is, To Let Bawa Harvest The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Within You, Before The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Harvests You, So God Can Finish What God Has Started Within You A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, So In The End, "No Child Is Left Behind" Within You, If You Like, For The Choice To Use Your Life In That Way, Or Not, Before The Time For "Using Your Life" Is Over, Is Most Certainly Your Choice, Not God's Amen. Ok?" mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, let it be done in this way for the benefit of all the creations of God within "Us" and us within the True Shaikh and God within Him. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Close but "No Cigar" Grasshopper. Bawa. Should be, "For the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within "Us", with "Us" happily, and peacefully, and joyfully having let the "us" end. mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In reviewing "Our Little Chat" at the Feet of God for our age, Bawa within "Us" and God within Him, made the following adjustments, to the Title: "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Let God Have "His Way" With You, Before Your Fate Has "Its Way With You", That Is, To Let Bawa Harvest The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Within You, Before The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Harvests You, So God Can Finish What God Has Started Within You A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, So In The End, "No Child Is Left Behind" Within You, That Is, If You Like, For The Choice To "Use Your Life" In This Way, Or Not, Before The Time For "Using Your Life" Is Over, Is Most Certainly Your Choice, Not God's Amen. Ok?" mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, let it be done in this way for the benefit of all of the Creation of God within God within "Us", with "Us" happily, and peacefully, and joyfully having let the "us" end. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. Good Son. Much, Much better. Anbu. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Bawa. In reviewing "Our Little Chat" at the Feet of God for our age, Bawa within "Us" and God within Him, made the following additional adjustments, to the Title (see underlined part): "Join In Partnership With God Within You, To Let God Have "His Way" With You, Before Your Fate Has "Its Way With You", That Is, To Let Bawa Harvest The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Within You, Before The Angel of Death (peace be upon Him) Harvests You, So God Can Finish What God Has Started Within You A Very, Very Long Time Ago, Which Is To Reveal God To God Within You, For The Benefit Of All Of The Creation Of God Within You, So In The End, "No Child Is Left Behind" Within You, That Is, Everything Separating God From God Within You, Is Separated From You, If You Like, For The Choice To "Use Your Life" In This Way, Or Not, Before The Time For "Using Your Life" Is Over, Is Most Certainly Your Choice, Not God's Amen. Ok?" mmsulaiman11: Bawa. Al-hamdu lillah. Allahu Akbar. Yes Bawa, we understand. Amen. MuhaiyaddeenLB: Bawa. May all the peace, the beneficence, and the blessing of God be upon all of My Children. May God help all of My Children. May God be pleased with all of My Children. Amen. Bawa. My love you - Shaikh Muhammad Rahim Bawa Muhaiyaddeen (may God be pleased with Him, and with Us). Amen. End of "Page 1 of 1" of "E-mail Version" of - Spiritual Chat 361 - ........................... |
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